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Il Santuario di Delfi - 3° e ultima parte


Il tesoro di Delfi, conclusioni
di Giuseppe Sgubbio

A questo punto, occorre chiederci se il tesoro a Delfi lo hanno eretto i Greci o gli Etruschi. Prima try and give a possible answer, it highlights two aspects of importance:
1) apparently in all the temples Greeks, there was a regulation that prevented the Greek city not to erect a treasure inside the sacred enclosure. Plug and waxes, which have never been colonies, are the only two exceptions.
2) in official races, ie Olympic or Pythian could attend only the inhabitants of the Greek cities. For Herodotus (V, 22), no barbarian has never set foot in arenas on occasion, such competitions. Duly convened committees were in charge of monitoring compliance with these practices. To be clear: anyone could make gifts, for example, the regents of Rome, following the taking of Veii, they wanted to make a gift to the god Apollo, but had put it, to the testimony of Diodorus and Appian (Settis1968 p. 361), in the treasury of Marseille. There are also appearances by athletes from non-Greek cities, such as the one killed by the Greek Telemacos, in a wrestling match, but as you know, it was not an official competition. Polybius rightly emphasizes that when the Romans, after conquering Greece, participated in the Olympics, was considered a novelty. Apart from these minor issues do not, if they can bring another no less important: the expected wealth of artifacts found in the plug are very oldest Etruscan Spina, at least at the time di tali reperti (VI a.C), la Spina Etrusca non poteva assolutamente aver già raggiunto uno sviluppo da permettersi tale erezione. La non possibilità di erigere tesori, se non essendo città greche, e reperti più antichi della Spina stessa, creano problemi non facilmente superabili agli studiosi moderni, che, come abbiamo detto, sono tutti concordi nel ritenere che il tesoro a Delfi, sia stato eretto dalla Spina Etrusca

Questi studiosi, nel corso delle loro ricerche riguardanti le vicende Spinetiche, si sono limitati a cercare la provenienza delle decime, che periodicamente si dovevano mandare a Delfi. Per qualcuno potevano essere proventi da attività commerciali, per altri proventi da atti di pirateria, per altri still proceeds from clean seas, but they have depth, as you may in fact there was such need, the problem of those who had built the treasure. Years ago, some writers, including Braccasi (1977 p. 151), had raised the proposal that the erection of the Treasury at Delphi, was the work of the strong, but still a minority, the Greek part of the Etruscan Spina, well, most recently in this hypothesis, does not believe any more. What is surprising is that no scholar has questioned the city agency, and for all without any doubt, this may be just the Etruscan Spina! Let's see if there are reasons that can explain this unanimous conviction: I am going to key because of their writings I could not understand: perhaps one reason may be this: he never believed that the Pelasgians Spina could have achieved such prosperity which enabled it to build a treasure because, until the IV century BC, the attendance was in the Adriatic just passing through and therefore there would be no permanent settlements, or to plug or to other cities. If this is a reason that does not mean you are taken into account the ancient testimonies that say something else instead. For example, in addition to those we have already seen, it should be added that of Diodorus Siculus (XIV, 113,) says that those in the Po Valley, there were 12 cities founded by the Pelasgians, the pre-existing well-seventh centuries Etruscan domination. As you know it was the custom of the Pelasgians dedecapoli build, so did it in Ionia, in the Peloponnese and in Etruria history. So, which of permanent settlement there were already a long time, it also learns from archaeological discoveries. Or is another reason: a Delphi Etruscan inscriptions have been found and the findings confirm that the Etruscans good relations that exist between the Greek and Etruscan Spina Delphi and waxes, reports that would allow the erection of the treasures.
Let's see if we really, in the light of these archaeological remains, the treasures of Spina and waxes can be, without doubt, be charged to the Etruscans. Start with the record; two are the ones most often mentioned by scholars. One is the famous Cippo the Tyrrhenian, the other is the least known of Thessaly Farsala. Let's see if they can testify to secure contacts between Delphi and the Etruscans. The Briquel (1988 p. 150-161), in charge during the conference, to report any contacts between the Greeks and Etruscans, after having reviewed these two inscriptions, shows that the issue you are dealing with, it is difficult to draw secure items. Otherwise expressed about the archaeological finds in the sanctuary of Delphi, said that currently it is very difficult to use the data provided dall'indubbia presence of Etruscan objects in Delphi in the Middle alta e conseguentemente mette in discussione tali rapporti. Il Briquel dice reperti di epoca alta in quanto effettivamente si tratta di materiale cronologicamente anteriore a quello di cui parlano i testi letterari, infatti, dando uno sguardo all’elenco fattone dal Gras (op. c pag 667-668), si constata che come minimo risalgono al VII a.C. Giustamente dice il Herrmann (1983) che questi reperti dimostrano solamente contatti precoloniali con l’occidente, perciò in una epoca che non corrisponde all’esistenza della Spina e della Cere Etrusche. Il Magnani (1993 pag 80), in un articolo riguardante i contatti fra Delfi e gli Etruschi, porta anche come prova l’ambasciata che Tarquinio il Superbo avrebbe mandato a Delfi, ma per the Dumesil (1977 p. 384) would be a legend.
All this tells us that the archaeological remains and inscriptions, can not be attributed to the Etruscans the erection of the two treasures. It should also highlight a particular, to ensure that these entries are credible Tirreni should be remembered that the match is always and only Italian Etruscans, but, as is well known in ancient remains, the term Tirreni, referred to two people , one in Italy and one in the Aegean. Not only: in ancient remains, Tirreni not always meant the Etruscans, Pelasgians often meant instead. Let's see: Ellanico of Mytilene (Dion Alic I, 23) says that the Pelasgians founders of Spina Tirreni began to call, just after arriving in Italy. For Mirsilo of Lesbos (Dion Alic I, 23) began to be called the Pelasgians Tirreni only when they returned to Greece. Regardless of who is right, the substance does not change. The equivalence Pelasgians = Tirreni is well documented by other ancient writers: Thucydides (IV, 109), Anticlide apud Strabo (V, 2), Sophocles apud Dion Alic (1.28), Callimachus (Ossirinico diaphragm, and others. Interesting to our area is the testimony that brought about Diodorus Siculus (XIV 113), says that those expelled by the Gauls, the Etruscans from the Po Valley, were in fact the descendants of the Pelasgians from Thessaly arrived in due course. Thus, despite these ultimi, come abbiamo visto, fossero dagli antichi nominati Etruschi, di fatto erano Pelasgi.
Che i Tirreni erano detti Pelasgi e viceversa, si deduce anche dalle testimonianze del più Tirrenico degli autori antichi, cioè Erodoto. Questi in verità ha sempre tenuto distinto i Pelasgi dai Tirreni, ma se analizziamo bene i suoi racconti, ci renderemo facilmente conto che sta parlando sempre dello stesso popolo. Infatti come dice Plutarco (Rom II,3 che) i Tirreni ricorda Erodoto sono di fatto i Pelasgi.
L’unico degli autori antichi, che tiene ben distinto i Tirreni dai Pelasgi, e non lascia intendere diversamente, è Dionisio di Alicarnasso, ma, come tutti gli studiosi sanno, questi, avendo bisogno di dimostrare la "Greece" only the Romans had to dismantle the theory Pelasgians = Tirreni and say that the Etruscans were indigenous. At the point where we must honestly come to realize that we are at an impasse and that leave should be taken into serious consideration the possibility that the treasure of Spineto at Delphi was built by its founders primitive, that is, from the Pelasgians. Let's see, so if there are ancient remains mindful that the relationship between Pelasgians and Delphi, and if there have been events that have paved the way for the erection of a treasure.
Some of these witnesses exist. Pass them in review and analyze them.
We have already referred to the testimony of Dionysius of Halicarnassus and Ellanico of Mytilene, (I-I8 and I-28), but it is good to once again bring back the contents: a population of Pelasgians parties from Argos in Thessaly, but from Argos in the Peloponnese, led by Nanas, following the advice oracle of Dodona, arrive at the mouth of the Po and go back to a branch Spinete said. One of them based Spina, others continue to arrive Cortona and later occupy a territory that later Tirrenia. It is not clear at what age they go back this migration Pelasgians, but considering that according to the testimony of Tzetze (Alex Licofrone 1244), Ulysses would be the Nanas, must have occurred during the period of the Trojan War, so early arrival of the Pelasgians XII BC One near mouths of the Po Valley is also witnessed by Aristotle Ps (80).
Mirsilo of Lesbos, reported by Dionysius of Halicarnassus (I-23) says that these Pelasgians, after living in Italy a long period of prosperity, are made the sign of doom (birth deformities, frequent droughts, etc.), so they decide to turn to 'oracle of Apollo to ask the reason for these mishaps and what to do to stop them. The oracular response they receive is that by failing to deliver on promises made at the time Zeuz, the Cabin of Samothrace and Apollo, to give a tenth of the products, would be punished for this and that to put an end to these woes to be given to Apollo tithes also born. In response to this ruling and discussions that followed, many of these Pelasgians returned to Greece. From this testimony we learn very interesting things: these Pelasgians before arriving in Italy, had turned to Dodona, Zeus, therefore, to Cabiri of Samothrace (says Diodorus Siculus V, 47) that this cult was brought from that island Dardano, but instead to Herodotus (II, 51) would be taken by those Pelasgians, and twice had turned to Apollo, which for the Gabba (1975 p. 40) was the Delphic. This therefore means that these Pelasgians are the bearers of these cults in Italy. Licofrone (Alex 1240) is of the opinion that the cult of the Cabin has been brought to Italy by Aeneas. But the testimony is important Mirsilo in another respect, the return of the Pelasgians in Greece, a return also mentioned by Pausanias (I 38) and twice testified by Strabo; Regisvilla started from (V, 2) and Ravenna (V, 214), a return which may have favored or paved the way for the erection of the treasures.
The events just mentioned: = Thessalian Pelasgians arrived in Italy, returning to Thessaly in Greece, Pelasgians who turn Delphic oracle, are confirmed by other ancient writers, Herodotus (VI-139), Strabo (V-226) Licofrone (Alex 1357) Pherecydes (apud Dion Alic 1-13), Anticlide (apud StraboneV-2), PS Monkey (v. 227), Apollonius of Rhodes (I-18), Diodorus Siculus (XIV-113), and the list would be very long.
In recent testimony, sometimes called the Pelasgians, other times we speak of Thessaly, one can think that they contain contradictions and cancel each other out. Not so, albeit with different words, all say the same things. For example, Strabo, identified with the Pelasgians Thessaly, Thessalian foundation in fact says Ravenna (StraboneV, 214). Also tells Zosimus (V, 27). In light of this evidence, we can not exclude that the treasure of Spineto has been erected by the Pelasgians (various returns to create the conditions for it), and subsequently this treasure has been run by the large Greek component of the Etruscan Spina. Relations between Italian
Pelasgians and Delphi, or relationships between Italian people and said the sanctuary in pre-colonial era, as mentioned above are confirmed by archeology (Villanovans findings of Hermann 1983). Of these pre-colonial relations is convinced well Cassola (1975 p. 95).
should be noted that many modern scholars in an attempt to demonstrate the erection of the treasures from the Etruscan city of Spina and waxes, they say that this was possible thanks to their traditions Pelasgians. The meaning of this phrase is unclear, mean that the city founded by the Pelasgians, then become Etruscan, could erect treasures in the various Greek sanctuaries? We should ask ourselves the reason why among the many cities that potevano vantare tale fondazione, solo Spina e Cere ne hanno approfittato! Oppure tradizione Pelagica significa altra cosa? Purtroppo questo concetto non è stato dagli studiosi ben chiarito.
Ulteriori collegamenti fra Delfi e il territorio spinetico.
Considerata la poca credibilità di una eventuale erezione del tesoro da parte della Spina Etrusca, (reperti più antichi della città, iscrizioni etrusche molto dubbie, regolamento che impediva l’erezione di tesori alle città non Greche ecc), e considerato che è difficile dimostrare una sicura erezione Pelasga, sarà bene passare in rassegna le testimonianze storiche antiche per vedere se tale erezione può essere opera di altre popolazioni. Tralascio di approfondire the events of the Adriatic populations that are active during the so-called age of the medium (BC VII-X), ie Egineti, Corinthians, seals, Rhodes, Sami, Cnidus, etc., although we can not rule out their contribution to that erection. Instead I intend to review the attendance of many signs of people who have operated in the areas Spineto horse of the Trojan War. I am well aware that these testimonies are more mythological than historical, and therefore it is extremely difficult to distinguish what can be truly happened, and what is a legendary event, but it is also true that the problems we face are far from ' be solved, it is necessary to investigate all fronts, hoping to find something I can do a little 'light in a near-total darkness. There are many indications of attendance that can demonstrate probable link between Delphi and Spina. We have already highlighted the Thessalian Pelasgians Tirreni, these can be added to the Argonauts, the Hyperborean, the Sicilians Ligurian Leleges, Daedalus and Icarus, the Dioscuri, the Mycenaeans, and of course the characters related to the events that Homer, Circe, Ulysses, Aeneas , Antenor and Diomede.Tutti these clues will be taken into account, whereas for the shoulders will be done only briefly because the stories of these heroes, especially Odysseus and Aeneas, have already been the subject of my recent research.

The Hyperborean

We have already said that Apollo was away from Delphi for three months a year and moved into the land of Hyperborea, where he had a garden (Delcourt1955).
difficult to say where exactly was this people. The town witnessed by the ancient historians are very indeterminate: for Damast (Jacoby Fgr h I) and Pindar (Pythian X 29), we were outside where the wind blows of Boreas, Pindar adds that it is always difficult to find a way for both land and by sea to go back in the lands of Hyperborea; for Argonautica Orfeiche (1080) this population is in an unspecified northern sea, for the vast majority of the Greek people was that when the sun disappeared, so in the North West.
You could still find a lot to the north, because his land was cultivated both in the grain that the olive tree. Considering that Apollo went there in winter, you'd think he was in southern Greece, but some say they went by his people to bring the summer. Do not miss the ancient evidence that these people are geographically localized. For Posidonius of Apamea, reported by Apollonius of Rhodes (II, 675), was in the Alps to Hesiod (diaphragm 150) near the Po, as suggested by Apollodorus (ii. 5). There are numerous examples where the ancient Hyperborean are identified with historical peoples, for Pontus Heraclides (Plutarch Life of Ham 22) were the Celts. Stefano Tarquini said that the Byzantine Empire were Hyperboreans, to serve (Aen IO) the city of Pisa was founded by King of Hyperborea Flat for Filostefano reported by Pindar (Olympian 3.58), the Hyperborean people would take that name from a Thessalus called Hyperborean. Capovilla says (1968 p. 169) that for some people this was identified with the Ligurian. The list could go on, suffice it to say that these people were often identified with people from Thessaly and arrived in our area on the advice of Apollo. Both Herodotus (IV 33), which Pausanias (1.31), which Callimachus (Hymn to Delos 275) show the steps taken the bearers of gifts intended for Hyperboreans Apollonian sanctuary of Delos, gifts in honor of Artemis, sister of Apollo (Herodotus IV 34).
The most interesting and detailed account of that journey is certainly to Herodotus, because, he says, who carried out personal research on this matter of these people in all parts of the world known in his time.
We see this journey. After visiting the Scythians, these bearers of gifts stopped off in the Adriatic. For some, it was in Elettridi, islands that were sacred to Artemis at the mouth of the Po, for others to Caput Adria (Briquel 1994, p. 189), then further south, arriving at Dodoneo (inhabitants of Dodona) and, after crossing Maliaco the gulf, came to the island of Delos.
Some modern scholars who are interested in this route, have been asking in vain for the right of the stage at Dodona, in fact meant a futile and inexplicable stretch of the journey. Perhaps the answer exists: the Dodone were two, one was in Epirus and Thessaly was in the actual tissue (Capovilla 1958 p. 193) and adds the Capovilla (1960 p. 25), it is of Leleges, and we will see later, the population of that question. So if the stop was made in Hyperborea Dodona in Thessaly and Epirus that the concerns would fall on their own, even this step would explain better the way witnessed by Callimachus. But Dodona was Hyperborea or Epirus Thessaly? Difficult to give a definite answer. Herodotus does not specify, but we do know an important detail, it is said that the Greek people that the gifts first touch after stage Adriatic, are the Dodoneo; Well as you know was not considered Epirus Greece (Sordi 1996 p. 107) , whereas it was in effect Thessaly, so there is good reason to believe the Thessalian Dodona that he remembered. This view is also Scuccimarra (1990 p. 81). The existence of a Thessalian Dodona is documented in the Odyssey XIV 327 and also mentioned by Apollodorus (244). Epirus was very likely that the oracle which turned the Pelasgians founders of Spina although even in this case there may be serious doubts. Dodona which was the focus of expansion Pelasgians, there is no doubt, says Strabo (vii, 7) and Hesiod (apud Strabo VII327), but they do not specify to whom you talk to Dodona. Hardly had the
Epirus Dodona, where Athena had taken a beam of oak, which she then placed in the ship Argo, the ship that is used by the Argonauts to go to win the Golden Fleece (Apollonius of Rhodes I, 526). It is widely believed that these, before going in Colchis, had passed from Dodona, but by Herodotus (IV 179), we learn instead of coasting around the Peloponnese as they wanted to go to Delphi, where in fact, says Apollonius Rhodium (IV 529), arrived and received from two Apollo tripodi.Non is indeed a novelty that the company was advised of the Argonauts by Apollo. Nor is it clear what he would face Aeneas Dodona to ask for advice. Dionysius of Alic (1.51) says Dodona, but some offers Delo (Carratelli 1992 p. 401-410), in fact in the Aeneid (3.96), it is written that Aeneas and the Trojans, after the destruction of Troy, questioning the Apollo of Delos to find a new home and the oracle recommended Italy as was their ancient land. The existence of two Dodone, the oldest of Epirus Thessaly, used to do a little 'light on many obscure points that are scattered issues now being treated. There are direct links
Apollo high-Adriatic areas, such as the numerous shrines Apollinee. Even if we exclude those of Adria (Colonna 1974 p. 8), and that of Spina (Colonna1993 p. 135), which could be considered the Etruscan period, we will remember the Fons of Abano Apone, Apone this corresponds to Apollo. The same could be written in the PONI a mutilated inscription found at Bagnacavallo; says Susini (1985 p. 9-17) that there is a connection between itself and the sanctuary of Abano Apone. We must also add links Apollo's sister Artemis, with our area, as is known at Delphi there was a temple dedicated to her, and there was a in the upper Adriatic, mentioned by Strabo (V, I) and the Ps Aristotle (105). We have already referred to the islands Elettride, her sacred islands, which were acclimatized here, and here were acclimatized Melagridi the islands, these sacred to her, which gave its name to the guinea fowl (Mastrocinque 1991, p. 30). Being in Artemis theme, we can not forget the two holy places of the territory Lugo dedicated to Diana, a goddess who is known to correspond to her. Do not forget that the long road, the old road already said, the Lugo, so do not be a surprise if in that area were found Spina Pelasgians. So too is her adored in the Feronia Bagnacavallo. Being still in the theme Apollo, we remember the events of his son Phaeton, the chariot of the sun that fell into the Po As well, the Istrian city of Pula would take that name from him. One can not but admit that there are many areas of our links with the Apollo at Delphi.
Ligurian, Sicilian, Leleges. The
Leleges Ligi are mentioned by Herodotus (1.171 and V11, 172) as the population in his time in Greece. Existing in Thessaly with the names Ligyes, Ligynaioi, Lilegi, are mentioned by Strabo (XII, 543) by Thucydides (VI, 2), from Ps Monkey (941), by Stephen Byzantine and Aristotle in microbiology (sat 1.7). For Berva (1966 p. 33), Leleges were Pelasgians, as it says Ps Monkey (1769 Bardetti p. 57).
What interests us is that these correspond to the Ligurian Leleges, they say that Eustace is in Tzetze Licofrone (Sbordone 1941 p. 92), indicating that the eponym of the Ligurian Ligyes was called, and correspond to the Aborigines (Capovilla 1958 p. 201) and Ambrontas (Ps Monkey 941). Even more interesting is the realization that, in turn, the Ligurian and Sicilian are the same population, we know from Varro and Cato (Capovilla1955 p. 33), by Diodorus Siculus (V, 6) and Festus (424). Philistus, in Dionysius of Halicarnassus (1.22) tells us that 80 years before the Trojan War, the Ligurian and Sicilian arrived in Sicily, but for a time had lived on the shores of the northern Adriatic. Pliny is not by chance (III, 13) says Numana Siculis seasoned and Solino (2,1,10), he adds, that they had founded Ancona. Thanks to these Sicilians of Geryon from the cult Abano Terme would arrive in Sicily (1985 Susini p. 9-17). We also know from Eudoxus, that Hadrian, a descendant of the Sicilian, he founded Adria (Mastrocinque1990 p. 49). Siculi would also, according to Pausanias (I, 28), those Pelasgians who built the famous wall in Athens, which in turn correspond to those Tirreni that Strabo (V, 2) had departed from the Italian town of Regisvilla. Ligurian Pelasgians and are therefore the same population, are in fact identical anthropologically. Pure would be the Ligurian Hills (Pais 1916 p. 103). The Conero would take that name by Cunaro, the leader of the Ligurian which according to Virgil (Aeneid, Servius X 186), would help in the war against Aeneas Turnus. There are good reasons to believe that they may be one Leleges Ligurian Sicilian population, which in ancient times lived in the Caucasus, then radiated to the Anatolia to Greece and from Italy, which is famous for the Law of the three peninsulas so dear to Ferri and the Capovilla, and then, with these or other names may have met again. The examples in this respect there, Aeneas came to Italy to meet his ancestors Dardani (Braccesi 1994, p. 53), the Greek settlers who colonized Sicily were surprised to see that people already stationed there, conoscevano la loro lingua, adoravano i loro dei, conoscevano le leggende dei loro eroi, altrettanto è capitato a quelli che arrivarono in Sardegna. Quando il console romano Mario nel 101 a.C. affrontò nei pressi di Ferrara i Cimbri, che erano pure detti Ambrontas, rimase sorpreso nel constatare, lo riferisce Plutarco (vita di Mario 19) che l’urlo dei Liguri e dei Cimbri era identico e, guarda caso, il capo di questi ultimi si chiamava Ligias. Questi avvenimenti e tanti altri che si potrebbero riportare, dimostrano che questi popoli provenivano dalla stessa zona.
I Micenei
La presenza micenea in alto Adriatico è ben documentata. Sarebbe lungo l’elenco dei frammenti ceramici e dell’ambra tipo Tiryns came to light in the area: Torcello, Nezanzio, Montagnana, Pizzughi background Pavian and for all, Frattesina Terme. These admissions demonstrate unequivocally the existence of trafficking in these areas Mycenaeans. Not only that, almost certainly the Mycenaeans used to radiate toward the mouth of the Po Tyrrhenian some areas, for example, Luni sul Mignone, as correctly predicted the Oestenberg (1967 p. 246). But there have been plotted using routes to the summits of the mountains, as was their custom, not by chance in a top, near Battle Mountain (Valley Senio), was found the amber type Tiryns (Catharsis cit.) The often repeated that Mastrocinque protovillanovian elements and elements Mycenaeans are often indivisible. Being on the subject peoples, we can not mention the Sabines (Pliny Ravenna Sabinorum opium), the Liburni, Umbria (of Budrio, they built villages, about 48 have been counted only in Romagna), the Latins, and Illyrians. Illyria is the name of primitive Bagnacavallo, ie Gabellum. These are people who are well in these areas and there is much to say about their origin.

Argonauts

for argon is a group of heroes from Greek parties Iolcus in Thessaly, destination Colchis (Black Sea), goal, winning the Golden Fleece.
is not clear what was meant in ancient times for the Golden Fleece. For the myth was Aries leather winged Phrixus Zeus would send to save Elle and a sacrifice. From old was generally considered a symbol of royal dignity and sovereignty. For Isodoro (Orig Book III) and Hyginus (Fab CXXXIII), was the skin of sheep born of Neptune, for Tzetze (Licofrone 562) and Apollodorus (Book I), was the ram instead of Mercury, adds Simon (Apollo Rhodium Book IV ), which was colored porpureo for Juvenal was gold, as for Pindar. This ram had made the trip from Greece to Colchis flying through the air, they say Apollodorus (Book I), Homer (Iliad, Book VIII), Lucian (Dialogues), Grandpa (Book X), Philostratus (Icon glauca) and St. Augustine (De civit dei libro XVIII). Che ci sia andato invece a nuoto, ne sono convinti Manilio ed Ovidio. Per la stragrande maggioranza degli antichi scrittori era una pelle, per Diodoro Siculo (libro III), confermando Palefato, era invece il tesoriere di Atamante che portava con sé una statua d’oro; per Seneca (Medea), era un libro in cui era scritto come tramutare in oro ogni metallo; per Eustazio, era l’oro che i Colchi avevano raccolto con le pelli di animali, per Newton (Chronologie 104) lo scopo della spedizione Argonautica non era un vello ma il tentativo di convincere le popolazioni del Mar Nero a ribellarsi allo strapotere degli Egiziani. Per arrivare a destinazione, gli Argonauti fanno tappa a Lemmo, Samotracia, passano il Bosphorus, along the eastern shores of the Black Sea and after various vicissitudes win the golden fleece. This, with very few exceptions, is the path of going that we have handed the ancient writers. Very different are the oldest testimonies about the return trip. For Apollonius of Rhodes (IV 259) and Pompey Trogo (Justin XXXII 3.14), it would be the river Danube River Risano, Adriatic sea, river Po, the Rhone river, the Tyrrhenian Sea, Thessaly,
for Time (FGH66), Don River, Baltic Sea, Atlantic Ocean, the Strait of Gibraltar, the Mediterranean Sea, Tyrrhenian Sea, Thessaly. For Hesiod (diaphragm 64), Hecataeus (FGH1) and Pindar (Pythian V 251), river stages, Indian Ocean, Red Sea, mar Mediterranean, Thessaly. For Euripides (Medea 431), and Callimachus, the trip back would be the same as the first leg. From one of the oldest legends describing this journey, the so-called Legend Minia, we learn, unlike almost all other ancient commentators, of going that route would not have affected the banks of the Black Sea, while the shores of the Adriatic (Sgubbi 1999), consequently the only geographical references consistent between the various stories, would be the Po and the islands Elettridi, but with a difference: Minia concern for the legend's journey outward and back, for all the other stories about only the trip back. To la leggenda Minia, la destinazione degli Argonauti non era la Colchide, ma la Colicaria (Graves1983 pag 732), zona della bassa mantovana ricordata nell’Itinerario Antonini. Questa Colicaria ha ricevuto tale nome dai Liguri-Ligyes, che a sua volta avevano dato il nome alla Colchide, cioè alla località da loro abitata in tempi remotissimi. Il fiume che risalirono non era il Fasi, ma il Po; scopo della spedizione non era una pelle di montone, ma l’ambra, preziosa resina provenienti dai paesi Baltici, che aveva le isole Elettridi come punto di smistamento. Considerato che Circe si sarebbe trovata nella isola di Lussino, gli Argonauti non ebbero più bisogno di andare nel Tirreno. Oltre a questa leggenda vi sono altre testimonianze che ritengono solamente Adriatica la saga degli Argonauti; quella di Eumelo di Corinto (Capovilla 1957 pag 749) e quella di Igino (Fabula 23). Occorre anche tener presente che per Omero la nave Argo non era andata nella Colchide. Licofrone (Alex 1364), dice che gli Argonauti sono Pelasgi; nelle Argonautiche Orfiche (95) è scritto che gli Argonauti sono pure detti Mini, cioè antichi abitanti della Tessaglia, ebbene, abbiamo già detto che i Pelasgi sono i Tessali, e essenzialmente Tessala è la saga Argonautica: Tessala è la sede sia della partenza che del ritorno, Tessali sono i componemti della spedizione, Tessalo l’oracolo a cui si rivolsero, Tessala la dea Artemide a cui gli Argonauti eressero ovunque dei templi. Sia that the Argonauts landed on the islands Elettride Tessali. The deeds of the Argonauts are a perfect copy of the deeds Pelasgians, and their routes from Greece to our areas are, in turn, a photocopy of the Hyperborean journey. Both the Argonauts, which the Pelasgians had to Hera, the patron Pelasgians, well, says Strabo (V, 1), a temple dedicated to her, was in our country. In turn, as we shall see in part, almost all myths are set in the northern Adriatic in some way connected to the Argonauts. In an article entitled "The roots lie in the saga of Romagna Argonaut" (Sgubbi 1999), I have faithfully described the importance that the Argonaut saga has had on our area.

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Wednesday, March 2, 2011

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Il Santuario di Delfi - 2° parte di 3


The Sanctuary of Delphi: History and functions.
Joseph Sgubbi

Religious activity in Delphi is archaeologically documented as early as 1400 BC
Not long after the activity is fully functional, even oracular, in fact, this oracle is consulted by Jason on the eve of the adventure Argonautica (Apollonius Rhodius 1.414) was asked by Athamas (Carli 1785 p. 49), and so did Agamemnon before departing for the Trojan War. Pure
this period are the gifts offered to the shrine to the advice received, we know from Strabo (cited above) where descrivendo le ricchezze del santuario, fa presente che quelle del periodo Omerico non sono più esistenti. La millenaria attività oracolare, ben attiva anche in epoca romana, termina definitivamente nel 394 quando Teodosio il Grande, con un decreto, proibisce qualsiasi culto pagano.
Nonostante le sue vicende fossero scritte in tutte le opere degli antichi scrittori Greci, per molti secoli Delfi non viene più ricordata, è ignorata anche la sua antica ubicazione, solo nel XV secolo viene trovata grazie alle ricerche di Ciriaco, mercante di Ancona, dopodichè ha avuto inizio un ininterrotto pellegrinaggio in cui scopo principale era quello di trovare i magnifici monumenti e tesori ricordati da Erodoto e da Pausania.
Nell’area the sanctuary, was built a long time the village of Kastri, well, before the excavations began in I891, the village was taken apart and built a few miles away. Despite the many sacks that the sanctuary has had to endure, Nero killed over 5OO statues, to adorn Constantine plundered the Byzantium (Lanzani 1940 p. 82), the excavations have brought to light interesting relics of the past, but there is a strong belief that Delphi hide many secrets.
Delphi, the god Apollo holder, was undoubtedly the most famous sanctuary of ancient Greece, much more famous in Olympia, where as you know, besides the fact that the Olympics took place there, the title was Zeus. The fame of Delphi was due to the consultation, almost obligatory, almost all peoples of the earth, then known, carried out during migration and colonization. In fact, as they said Cicero, Plutarch and Justin, (Piccirilli 1972 p. 45) no people away from their land, without consulting the oracle of Delphi.
The consultation, which of course also affected other aspects of community life (wars, disasters, etc.), consisted of questions, orally or in writing, addressed to the priestess in turn, called Pythia at Delphi, whose answers, usually cryptic, were explained by the priests of the shrine. When it comes to shrines and oracles, the ball always goes into naive credulity degli antenati, ebbene, indipendentemente dalle nostre personali opinioni, occorre tener presente che, salvo alcune eccezioni, questo santuario era dagli scrittori antichi tenuto nella massima considerazione. Forse potrà sorprendere il fatto che era oggetto di grande venerazione anche da parte dei filosofi greci. Basti pensare che i famosi sette saggi, che in verità erano solo cinque (Talete, Solone, Periandro, Biante e Pittaco), scelsero Delfi per immortalare le loro famose sentenze: conosci te stesso, nulla di troppo, ecc.
Abbiamo già detto che il dio titolare era Apollo, ma nei tre mesi di ogni anno in cui Apollo si trasferiva nel paese degli Iperborei, il titolare diventava Dionisio.

Tracce del tesoro Plug in the Sanctuary of Delphi

First an introduction: in addition to the treasure of Spineta, Strabo (V-2) also notes the existence of the treasure in this sanctuary of Caere (Cerveteri). Since, as we will see many similarities shared by these two treasures in the course of research attempting to identify, often cite this treasure.
If we look at one of the many plants in the sanctuary of Delphi found that there are marked trails or those suspected of many treasures, some 38, especially if a large number compared with 16 in Olympia. Unfortunately, only 8 of these were successful, or at least think, identify yourself: Sicyon, Sifnos, Potidaea, Cnidus, Athens, Acanthus, and the Corinthians of Cyrene. For 15 others have tried, but with many questions, to give parenthood, all the others, including those for plug and Cerveteri, although not miss laudable assumptions are still anonymous.
There are two reasons why you encounter so many difficulties in the attempts of identification, one is already mentioned in the shrine built in the village of Kastri which prevented a definite attribution of inscriptions and dedications to their treasure, the other reason, perhaps the most important, is that ancient writers, who in the course of their work have pointed out these treasures have not done the detailed description who would have been useful to locate them.
The only descriptions that have been of some use are those of Pausanias, but the route they would have done in the sanctuary is not accepted by all.
short list of ancient authors cited by the Delphic treasures.: Pausanias (X, II) Sicyon, Sifnos, Thebans, Athenians, Cnidus, Potidaea, Syracuse and Corinth, Herodotus (I-14 and I-51), Corinthians, Clazomerai; Plutarch (de Pitia Oracles I2) acanthus Diodorus Siculus (XIV Historical Library 93) and Appian (Roman History II-8) Marseille, yet Diodorus Siculus, (XXVIII-IO) Thebans, Xenophon (Anabasis V-3) Athenians Polemon ( fragment XXVII) Sicyon, of course these must be added to the treasure as we have said that Spina is mentioned by Strabo, Pliny, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Polemon, and that of Cerveteri mentioned by Strabo (op.c). There are other uncertain references to other ancient treasures, such as that of Turi for Ellie. Of course this list does not pretend to completezza.Vediamo which could be to plug and Cerveteri. From what I understand, unless the archaeological finds of the last hour, two would be the remains of the treasures that could be ascribed to them: one is (see map No. 1), the No. X, the other is the No. XII, I would add to these, so with all the necessary caveats, the No. IX. These three treasures are a common feature, would be the only sanctuary Delfico considered foreigners by archaeologists, with a design feature that is different from other treasures. Let's see what has been said about these treasures. To become aware of the various powers need to inspect the plants every scholar who almost always attached to their work, each map shows the trail of the treasures, each treasure is marked with a number, each number corresponds to a bidder if the bidder does not yet been identified is written anonymously, or is indicated by an adjective derived from some peculiarity.
Powers reported in some plants (see picture)
Map Andronicos (1984): X = treasure treasure archaic ruins Aslepio; XII = Treasury Wind;
IX = not mentioned
Settis Map (1996): As the map above with the exception that this treasure is the treasure XI anonymous. Map of La Coste
Missal (1936): as above with the exception of the Treasury said ninth treasure destroyed.
Bommelaer Map (1991): X = Treasury Etruscan treasures nell'Asclepio; treasure treasure XII = Anonymous; Treasury IX = treasure anonymous.
Map Roux (1976): X = Treasury Treasury archaic nell'Asclepio; treasure XII = anonymous; X = treasure treasure archaic anonymous.
Map Ferri (1960); treasure X = Etruscan treasures (but with a question mark) = XII treasure treasure wind anonymous; IX = old treasure treasure of Athens.
Map Torelli (1997); treasure X = Spina = Caere treasure XII, IX = small treasure Potidaea.
Map Karabatea, (no publication date, currently on sale in bookstores) X = Etruscan Treasure, Treasury XII = Syracuse; Treasury IX = Potidaea. Please note that, in this latest plan, unlike the other, some treasures are located in other places, but you can not know if it's typographical mistakes, or whether the results of new excavations, so it is difficult to compare with other plants.
Let's look at the comments of several scholars in this respect of each treasure.

TREASURY X.
As we have seen the maps, this treasure is built nell'Asclepio said, actually would have been destroyed in IV BC to make way for the temple of Asclepius (Briquel 1988 p. 150), perhaps he had fallen into disuse? For its construction had been used to secure a yellow travertine from Tuscany, a stone's inscription has been found Tyrrhenian rocks contain some of his grooves and holes are identical to those found in Etruria, the measurement corresponds to the foot Italian (Pomtow 1924) consequently nearly all is said Etrusco. The
Pomtow (1924) says Caere first, then later said Spina, the Missal (1936) Spina for Dismoor (1912) Caere, also says the Keramopoullos (1909); for Briquel (1988 p. 155) this treasure may be plug in As was seen by Strabo Polemon and, therefore, for this scholar can only be that of waxes. TREASURY
XII.
Says Briquel (oc p. 154) that this treasure has different characteristics from other Delphian treasures, width greater than the length, columns separated from the rest of the building, orientation, abnormal, but on this last point we will see, that there is a good reason, then adds that might be proposed and Etruscan Spina. The Missal (cited) says Caere, or Clazomenae; for Pomtow (cit) Cnidus; for Dismoor (CIT) could be Plug.

TREASURY IX.
As we have seen the plans, for many, this treasure does not exist. Let's see some characteristics, and some boulders come from the treasury X, and would be built on the same level, very similar to XII, and was built with Italian material. The powers of the few who remember him, do not agree, for the Ferri (1960) was the oldest of the Athenians for Pomtow (CIT) could be the continuation of Potidaea; for Dismoor (CIT) was Syracuse, but not exclude that it could be a plug. The Briquel (cited above) do not talk about it, this suggests that it does not consider ours.
As I said earlier, I found this treasure should also be included among the eligible candidates. Let's see why: In May of 1893 (Faure1985 p. 65) a few meters from the east wall of this treasure, fu rinvenuta una statua marmorea intatta, raffigurante un ragazzo; nel 1984, pochi metri più ad ovest, è stata rinvenuta un’altra statua quasi identica, ma rotta in alcuni punti.
Nella sala IV del museo di Delfi, in un unico piedistallo, vi sono due statue di ragazzi, opera dello scultore Polimede, una intera ed una, si noti bene, è rotta in più punti. Non si sa di sicuro che cosa e chi queste due statue rappresentino, per qualcuno sarebbero i fratelli Argivi Cleobi e Bitone, ma per altri, anche al seguito di una dicitura che è stata messa nella targhetta, si tratterebbe dei Dioscuri, cioè Castore e Polluce. Pensando a queste due statue, che vi sono buone ragioni per considerarle quelle trovate nei pressi del Treasure X, one can not but think of the story Polemon (op.c), which covered the two statues of two boys, existing in the treasury of the spins, which for many, as mentioned above would be to plug. If these were the ones mentioned by Polemon, the hypothesis treasure IX = Spina, would be taken seriously.
summarize the assumptions of powers; despite the uncertainties we can say that X is definitely one of us, but it is very difficult to plug, in fact, that award an obstacle difficult to overcome, as rightly said Briquel, (1988) that Polemon and could be seen by Strabo as the time that their baby was no longer visible. Not all Scholars have given this a valid consideration, it does not take into account the Torelli (1997, because, as we have seen in the map attached to his book, identifies with the treasure Spina X, perhaps the Torelli not deemed sufficiently secure the testimony of Polemon; actually the word barbed Polemon reported, it could mean Spineta, but it could also mean a different thing. Adds Briquel (1988) that there is still about the testimony of Strabo, that is, reading the inscription in the treasury of a reading Spineto made to this is when that baby was still clearly visible. So this is almost certainly that of waxes. As for the IX and XII, it can be only say that one of these should be to plug, but only thanks to new archaeological discoveries will be possible to say something more.
We have already mentioned the path that Pausanias accomplished in the Delphic sanctuary and several scholars have used for the identification of some treasures. Unfortunately, in some cases have been, led astray, for example Pomtow, holding good indication that he got from Pausanias, had mistakenly attributed to the treasure Cnidus XII. The same happened to the author of the Encyclopedia entry Delphi Treccani, these, according to Pausanias, he offers treasure XII Cnidus and, consequently, gives this treasure belongs interesting archaeological remains, found on site, including the famous Caryatid. Unfortunately, about the actual route of Pausanias, there are multiple versions, (Arias 1945 p. 44) and is not yet clear what the aforementioned giusta.Il Pomtow is of the view that Pausanias has recalled several treasures, such as that of Potidaea, without actually having them. Tracing the exact route of Pausanias also means knowing what small roads, in addition to the sacred path, were popular in his time, these were probably the oldest, not surprisingly flowed into the ancient port. Probably the sides of these streets were built many treasures, such as ours and this may explain the anomalous orientation of the twelfth, highlighted by Briquel (1988).
who built this treasure?
If we make the point at which we arrived with our research, we find that we have only one certainty: the inhabitants of Spina have erected a treasure in Delphi! We do not know exactly what, we do not know if these people were Greeks or Etruscans, we do not know what period they have built, we do not know who subsequently has been managed, we do not know at which event has been erected.
Unfortunately, despite the fact that in regard to these questions, you can also have the views of Italian writers, it is not possible to give reliable answers. Browse this that has been said about Greece and Etruschicità Spina is the first step you need to do to learn more. For all the ancient writers, Shore was a Hellenis polis, which is a Greek city. For the vast majority of modern writers, Shore was an Etruscan town. Why this contrast so sharply? The reason can be only one, the ancient Pelasgians probably spoke of the plug, ie the one at the time of the Trojan War was founded in that branch of the Po thorns modern writers speak of the plug that came to light in the last century and that by the findings, it appears to have been inhabited from the fifth to third century BC
seems strange, but they are right entrambi, infatti, parlano di due cose diverse. Nonostante questa precisazione, il problema merita di essere approfondito, perciò ridiamo uno sguardo alle testimonianze antiche. Per i già ricordati Strabone, Ps Scilace e Giustino, Spina era Greca. Plinio (III 16) la dice Spina fondata da Diomede, perciò anche per lui era Greca, Dionisio di Alicarnasso la dice fondata dai Pelasgi perciò Greca. Abbiamo già detto che nessuno scrittore antico ricorda una Spina Etrusca. Non dobbiamo pensare che questo sia dovuto al fatto che all’epoca non si pensava alla possibile esistenza nella Padania di qualche città Etrusca, infatti sono dagli antichi ricordate e dette Etrusche le città di Felsina (Plinio III,115); Adria (Livio V, 33), Mantova (Servius Aeneid X, 200) and Melpum (Cornelius Nepos in Pliny III, 21).

... tomorrow the 3rd and last part

Tuesday, March 1, 2011

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Il Santuario di Delfi - 1° parte di 3




In search of treasure greek plug in the sanctuary of Delphi
Joseph Sgubbi



Abbreviations
AA = Upper Adriatic Antiques, Instruments and MemorieAccademia AMAP = Pad =
SVME Athens Archaeological School Yearbook; ASNSP Instruments Pisa
= BCH = Bulletin de Correspondence Hellènique; CISA Contributions = Institute of Ancient History: CCRB = Cultural Workshop on Art and Byzantine Ravenna; MEFRA = Melanges d'Archeologie de Ecole Francaise de Rome; PP = Word of the Past; QUCC = Quaderni Urbinati di Cultura Classica, RM = Mitteilungen des Deutschen Archaeologischen (Roma), RAL = Rendiconti Accademia dei Lincei, Rendiconti = RIL Institutes Lombardi, RFC = Magazine of Classical Philology; RSA = Journal of Ancient History, Classics and Oriental Studies = SCO, SE = Etruscan Studies.



The starting point for this research I had to after a trip to Greece.
Four ancient authors, in their works, recall the presence of the "treasure" of the greek Spineto in the sanctuary of Delphi.
(For treasure means small house in the form of a temple that was built inside the fence sacred function was to guard the gifts offered to Apollo in thanks for the advice received, so no content but a container.
These ancient writers are: Strabo (VI-I7) on the description of the Po Delta, still Strabo (IX, 3-8) at the description of the Delphic sanctuary, Dionysius of Halicarnassus (I-I7) on the description of Spina founded by the Pelasgians, Pliny (III-I6) at the description of the Po Delta, Lung (University XVIII 6 ° 6 A) at the description of Greece.
Despite these conclusive evidence, three Greek people, professionals: the guide, the museum's director of Delphi and a local scholar, specially interpellati riguardo della presenza del tesoro di Spina, non hanno saputo dirmi alcunché. Ritornato a casa ho ritenuto opportuno fare le necessarie ricerche, questi sono i risultati.
Lo studio riguardante la possibile individuazione del tesoro degli Spineti a Delfi, comporta anche l’approfondimento di vari temi ad esso collegati: antiche rotte Adriatiche, antiche migrazioni, rapporti fra Greci ed Etruschi... Si tratta di vicende, che senza alcun dubbio, hanno condizionato la storia e la protostoria, sia dell’area Spinetica che Romagnola.

Il tesoro degli spineti nelle testimonianze antiche
Strabone(V-I-7);
“Anche Altino è situata nelle paludi in una posizione somigliante to that of Ravenna, are found between half Butrio Castle Ravenna and Spina is now a village but was once a famous city of Greece. But in Delphi wont get to see the treasure of the people of Spina and other things wont be talked about them as a people were once powerful in the sea. And they say that this ancient city was built along the sea, but now it is rather far from the sea and land within approximately ninety stadia. "

Strabo (IX-3.8);
Wealth wont be envied so it is difficult to be kept even when it is sacred. But the temple of Delphi is in this poor, since their votes consacratvi, the most valuable were taken away and if but there are another are of inferior quality, but this ancient temple was very rich, witness Homer, but the riches he has not mentioned any vestiges left of it, nearly all votes were consecrated by the winners as the first fruits of the booty gained in their wars and there still read the inscriptions that show the'origine of those gifts and the names of donors, for instance Sibariti Spineto the Gulf and the Adriatic. Who knows why Strabo
feel the need to add after the word Spineto also the voice of the Adriatic, has probably meant that he knew of the existence of two cities with that name? In truth there was in other Licia Spina, (Lattes p. 1894. 35), this could mean that the name to the Adriatic Spina was given by people coming from the Aegean and that took its name from the branch of the Po called spin.
Pliny the Elder (III-I6);
"The Po to Ravenna Port Augusta through the pit where it is now called, and a time Padusa Messana, near the mouth of which is the size of a port that is said to be a Vatrenus river that descends from the hills of Imola. This was said before Eridania mouth and other Spineta, the city of Spina, founded by Diomedes, who excelled in the area leads us to believe as the "treasure" that exist in Delphi. "
Dionysius of Halicarnassus (I-I7);
"Some of those Pelasgians who dwelt in Thessaly, Greek descent from the Poloponneso, forced to abandon their lands, after various events took refuge inside from the people of Dodona, but they stayed only for a reasonable time, and then left the area following the address of the oracle to navigate to Italy at that time called Saturnia, built many ships and sailed to the Ionian Sea, but because of strong winds in the South and the lack of knowledge of those places, were taken over and moored near the mouth of a river called Po Spine. They founded
Spina had much luck certainly much more than other cities of the Ionian Sea for a long time becoming the most powerful rulers of the sea as da essere in condizioni di portare al santuario di Delfi decime più belle quanto mai, ricavate dalle loro attività marinare, successivamente attaccati da barbari che abitavano in zone confinanti, furono costretti ad abbandonare la città. Cosi scompare la stirpe dei Pelasgi che si era stabilita a Spina “.

Polemone(Ateneo XVIII 606) ;
“A Delfi nel tesoro degli Spinati, vi sono due statue in marmo di fanciulli dicono gli abitanti di Delfi che un visitatore del santuario si sarebbe innamorato di una delle due immagini, ragion per cui si sarebbe fatto chiudere nell’edificio e per questo amplesso avrebbe lasciato una corona”.
Il sito di Spina
Nonostante la city \u200b\u200bof Spina has been, albeit only partially found, and were found over 4OOO graves that were part of his burial, despite the fact that this city is mentioned by many ancient writers, in addition to the already mentioned Strabo, Pliny and Dionysius of Halicarnassus should be added Stephen Byzantine (v plug), Ps Scylax (I7) and Trogir-Justin (XX-I-II), despite the vast literature that this city can boast, just think of the numerous acts of conferences dedicated to her Spina (I959 ), Spina (I96O), Spina (I992), Spina (I993), Spina (I994), Spina (I998), well despite all this, little is known of plug: not its name, its origin, its development on ethnicity of its inhabitants and its end. Rightly, some have called this city a sphinx.
One of the reasons why his stories have been so puzzling is the fact that in the same delta area, but separated by at least five centuries, there have been two cities with the same name (Ferri I959 p. 59-63). One is the Spina
Etruscan city that is part and found that the ceramic is existing from the beginning of the end of the sixth III BC, the other is the plug "Pelasgian" mentioned by Dionysius of Halicarnassus, which was founded by Pelasgians at the time of the Trojan War, around 1200 BC They are two different realities, hence the uncertainties, by Hence the confusion. We see with the help of testimony where you can locate the ancient Pelasgians. We know from
Ellanico (apud Dionysius of Halicarnassus I-28) and by the same Dionysius, who was based in a branch of the Po said thorns from the Byzantine Empire, we learn that Stephen was connected to the branch Spino, the circumnavigation of Ps Scylax (17) it is written that the city needed to get back to that a course of water for at least three kilometers, of which course it was Pliny tells us, (CIT) was a branch of the Po, said Spinete, fed by a river, from from the hills of Imola, called Vatrenus (Santerno), which later give its name to the mouth. From these ancient remains, come si può vedere, non è possibile sapere con esattezza a quale delle due Spina essi si riferiscono. Dubbioso è anche il riferimento di Strabone, quando dice che al suo tempo, I d.C. oppure al tempo della sua fonte, (Artemidoro I a.C), la città di Spina distava dal mare oltre I5 km.
Al riguardo della localizzazione della Spina pelasgica, la stragrande maggioranza degli studiosi moderni ha preferito non prendere posizione, uno di loro il Ferretti Spadazzi (I983 pag 80), ha proposto che potrebbe corrispondere all’abitato venuto alla luce a Frattesina Terme, prov Rovigo. La motivazioni che lui riporta è che questo è il maggiore insediamento di epoca pelasgica della zona e che si trovava in un ramo del Po ora estinto.
This proposal comes up against his hard to beat an inconsistency; Spina Pelasgian was bound to be located to the south of the Po, otherwise you do not see how they sailed the Pelasgians in Etruria going from Cortona. Frattesina so difficult is the place where it was this early Spina. I wish I could be so far away from the sea! because then I might suggest, more likely, which may also correspond prehistoric village came to light where I live, that is Solarolo Ravenna prov. It is a town that has the same characteristics Frattesina, the only difference is that, despite having been discovered almost twenty years, this village do not know almost nothing, while instead of Frattesina, you are known only after two months many things that had been discovered.
Solarolo do not propose that the area where the plug could be located Pelasgians, although we can not exclude it, because I intend to make an assumption more credible. From time support (Sgubbi I992), unfortunately unheeded by experts, where that is now traced the ancient Via Longa, a road which, starting from the Via Emilia, at the Senio valley, the southern reaches of the valleys on either side of Comacchio ancient times there was a strip of high ground, free from floods, which no doubt was used in ancient times as an important director of the Earth. Antiquity in this way is archaeologically documented by the presence of numerous settlements on either side of the Bronze and Villanovans, came to light in the wake of plowing, so a small depth.
This ancient land route has all the features to match the route mentioned by Ps Scylax (Sgubbi I992), who with three days of walking, you could join with Spina Pisa. Despite having strong doubts on the possibility that in just three days of travel they could take over 2OO miles, this route may mark the road that connected with Spina Felsina, a road more than once sought but never found because it is absolutely not sought which could be. That this journey was for the land Thorn as convenient to get to the Via Emilia, Bologna, then turning towards, it also demonstrates the fact that the stones found in Spina come, or the Alps or Romagnolo Apennines, this means that there was a road that connected online Direct Plug and Bologna, as in this case, was also used to transport the much rocky material, which would have been from the Apennines, but the Bolognese. Regardless of all this, the finding in this guideline, Amber type of Tiryns (Catharsis Garland I993 p. 43) and two fragments of pottery, considered by some Mycenaeans, which of course should be added to the Mycenaean artifacts discovered in Mugello ie in the Tuscan side, shows that this ancient road was widely practiced.
And it is along these lines that I believe we must seek an Spina pelagic, but where exactly? Maybe we can help the testimony of Pliny the Elder as these in hand, we have already seen, he says that the branch Spinete, where Spina was founded, consisted of a course of water from dall'imolese; the Vatrenus (Sgubbi I983) , then this course of water formed in the ancient Santerno from Rasena (Martial Epigram) and the Senio, which could correspond to the actual mouth of the Rhine, it should be, with the help of aerial photos, hard to find him, well, once traced , should be find where it crosses the above-mentioned former director, and right there, in my opinion, it should check the plug Pelasgians. They say Uggeri Patitucci (1974 p. 70-91) that 3000 years ago the coastline was at least 30 km from today's. If so, this thorn pelasgo need to search much farther from the Etruscan Spina. Ferri says (1957 p. 97) to look for 4 or 5 km to the west, I believe that we should look further. What should the iron (cited) could be valid considering that Spina was built as Ravenna and Venice on the islands, but as we have seen, Dionysius of Alicannaso says that these Pelasgians went to the branch of the spin by this witness can not be know than went up this river, but surely until it found a lot of land. Well, the land was not far away, in fact, without a doubt, they found the strip of land before mentioned, and surely in that place founded Spina. You should also note that the settlements were built in ancient times a bit 'in order not to suffer the pirates. So if I had the task of finding certainly would start the arc of land, S'Alberto, Madonna del Bosco, Longastrino. and I would be very high up, because, as we know, between the period Protovillanovan and the Etruscan period, there was a long deterioration in climate that made much progress in the coastline.

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Ieri in tarda serata si è avuta l'ufficialità sulle condizioni di Dell'Oste circa la situazione del suo ginocchio SX.


Ebbene il capitano dovrà fermarsi per sottoporsi presumibilmente ad intervento di artroscopia al legamento crociato, tempi di recupero previsti circa sei mesi, quindi per il capitano il campionato si può dire finito, questa è una brutta tegola per mister Messicano che non potrà contare sull'apporto di uno dei trascinatori più importanti del suo team, ma tant'è e dobbiamo prendere atto di questa situazione.

Tutta la compagine BluOrange si stringe attorno al suo amato capitano augurandogli una pronta guarigione, per tornare ad essere il trascinatore che tutti conosciamo.

Anche la dirigenza vuole oltremodo accodarsi, come la squadra, a questi auguri rinnovando a Dell'Oste la stima, e l'amicizia sicuri che il capitano tornerà più forte di prima.

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